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#1 The Flash

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Posted 12 July 2018 - 10:22 PM

Steam ID: STEAM_0:1:227630000 (SourceBans)
Ban Type: Ban
Ban Time: 2018-07-13 03:07:31
Ban Length: 3 days
Ban Reason: Ignoring Admins
Admin: @Zaros

Player Name: [F2P] The Flash trade.tf
Appeal: The reason why i was banned was that i was ignoring admins. However, that is not true at all. The admin that banned me was cloud and i strongly believe that the only reason he (temporarily) banned me was because I had an f2p tag.

So, heres what happened. First, i was throwing cleavers through the spawn window and i did not know it was not allowed. The admin killed me after i threw 2 and told me it was allowed, so, i stopped. Then, i held a hentai objector (also not knowing it was not allowed as almost everyone holds one). On this, the admin kicked me. I rejoined and asked for the reason of kick and he explained that my objector was not allowed, so, i did not take it out again. Then, i started advertising that "Taking Offers on 10 Keys Pure, Trade Me :) [Unusuals / items / Aussies]". The admin then randomly said in chat "ban next time". When i asked why he was gonna ban me and that i was not breaking any rules, the admin did not even bother answering and simply banned me from the server.

Heres my profile : steamcommunity.com/id/ilikefood220

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#2 LaserBadger

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Posted 13 July 2018 - 01:55 AM

Although I am not the Moderator in question, I was there. I looked back in logs and after being kicked for the sign, you started to argue that "Hentai is not porn". And you were given warning both from the kick, and from cloud saying that next would be a ban. Not creating an honest appeal will not help you, but we will wait to see what else is said from the Moderator in question.

7/12/2018 10:13 PM: [F2P] The Flash trade.tf: men
 
 
7/12/2018 10:13 PM: Pyrocrastinator: the fnaf account is back
 
 
7/12/2018 10:13 PM: [F2P] The Flash trade.tf: is fkin hentai
 
 
7/12/2018 10:13 PM: [F2P] The Flash trade.tf: nob
 
 
7/12/2018 10:13 PM: Player phantom foxy the pirate fox has left the game (Banned from server)
 
 
7/12/2018 10:13 PM: [F2P] The Flash trade.tf: hentai is not pronn
 
 
7/12/2018 10:14 PM: viera: S>clean Abduction A Head Full of Hot Air 16K, cheapest on the market right now !
 
 
7/12/2018 10:14 PM: [F2P] The Flash trade.tf: porn
 
 
7/12/2018 10:14 PM: [FP] Zaros: Taking offers on a Clean Early Supporter D@D Yellowbelt, 170 pure or offers!
 
 
7/12/2018 10:14 PM: [F2P] The Flash trade.tf: fix admin pls
 
 
7/12/2018 10:14 PM: Pyrocrastinator: oh
 
 
7/12/2018 10:14 PM: [FP] Zaros: hehe ok
 
 
7/12/2018 10:14 PM: Player pears [U:1:108319474] has joined the game
 
 
7/12/2018 10:14 PM: Shaggy: Zaros, I have no idea who this 'buddy' is... Haven't played this game in a while xD
 
 
7/12/2018 10:14 PM: :cloud: will ban next
 
 
7/12/2018 10:14 PM: Byrn: !bp
 
 
7/12/2018 10:14 PM: Pyrocrastinator: plz
 
 
7/12/2018 10:14 PM: [F2P] The Flash trade.tf: bug on server : admin doesnt know hentai isnt porn
 
 
7/12/2018 10:14 PM: WINGDINGS: Selling various spells ranging from 2 keys all the way to 35 keys for pure or items. Add or trade if interesed! :J
 
 
7/12/2018 10:14 PM: Pyrocrastinator: no yiff sign
 
 
7/12/2018 10:14 PM: [F2P] The Flash trade.tf: pls fix
 
 
7/12/2018 10:14 PM: viera: S>clean Abduction A Head Full of Hot Air 16K, cheapest on the market right now !
 
 
7/12/2018 10:14 PM: Player [F2P] The Flash trade.tf has left the game (Banned from server)


#3 The Flash

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Posted 13 July 2018 - 04:21 AM

Arguing that hentai is not porn is not against the rules. I cannot find a single rule that says that. The point is, i never pulled out the objector again.



#4 The Flash

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Posted 13 July 2018 - 04:22 AM

The admin banned 2 users within a minute. Clearly, something is wrong with him. Thanks.



#5 The Flash

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Posted 13 July 2018 - 04:26 AM

Also, laser if you are posing the logs, at least have the courtesy to post all of it.



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Posted 13 July 2018 - 11:54 AM

Hi there, I don't really know where to begin with this, but I'm going to start with a few different things.

 

First of all, there is nothing wrong with me for banning two people in 2 minutes, and insulting me further gets you nowhere (one of them being you) as the first person I banned had a 0$ private backpack and was asking for unusuals and to broker, which is completely against the rules.

 

Second, you were banned for arguing with and ignoring admins after cloud kicked you, you came back, and started arguing after he told you top stop or you would be banned, which I took the liberty of doing since you decided to argue still which is clearly reason for your ban if you read your first post, not because you said hentai is not porn (which it totally is, don't even try to even fool me with that nonsense.) Also, insulting staff is not tolerated either as you keep spamming fix your admins in the chat, which I can even see part of in this chat log here. 

 

Third, that is the entire chat log, you can't fool us by saying it isn't when laser, cloud, and myself were there to witness the whole thing.

 

Finally, Flash... if you are submitting a ban appeal, at least have the courtesy to not lie about why you were banned in your very first post.



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Posted 13 July 2018 - 02:31 PM

Hi there, I don't really know where to begin with this, but I'm going to start with a few different things.

 

First of all, there is nothing wrong with me for banning two people in 2 minutes, and insulting me further gets you nowhere (one of them being you) as the first person I banned had a 0$ private backpack and was asking for unusuals and to broker, which is completely against the rules.

 

Second, you were banned for arguing with and ignoring admins after cloud kicked you, you came back, and started arguing after he told you top stop or you would be banned, which I took the liberty of doing since you decided to argue still which is clearly reason for your ban if you read your first post, not because you said hentai is not porn (which it totally is, don't even try to even fool me with that nonsense.) Also, insulting staff is not tolerated either as you keep spamming fix your admins in the chat, which I can even see part of in this chat log here. 

 

Third, that is the entire chat log, you can't fool us by saying it isn't when laser, cloud, and myself were there to witness the whole thing.

 

Finally, Flash... if you are submitting a ban appeal, at least have the courtesy to not lie about why you were banned in your very first post.

Firstly, may i know where i have lied?

 

Now, cloud never told me to stop arguing. He just said "will ban next" as it can be seen in the chat longs. Now, the reason given is that i ignored you. The reason is not that i argued / disrespected you (btw arguing is not disrespecting and if you get salty over the "fix admin" part, well, thats just sad). I never ignored the admin. He asked me to stop throwing cleavers, i stopped. Then i stopped with the objector. How can i ignore the admin about "next time ban" when he has clearly not explained what he is talking about? I'm sorry but I am not telepathic. I am sorry if you thought i was.



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Posted 13 July 2018 - 03:47 PM

Let me be clear about this:

 

1) Asking for clarification on why you were kicked/banned is not in any way against the rules, and the staff are expected to give you a straightforward answer if asked.

2) Saying that you don't think hentai is porn, while ridiculous, is also not against the rules. We are not here to censor opinions.

 

The part where this becomes discipline-worthy is when you keep saying "fix admin pls" or continue to argue when the member of staff has made it clear what the rule is. At that point, they are within their right to kick you and then ban if it continues. 

 

In the future, if you disagree with the rules or think an admin is overstepping their boundaries, I encourage you to talk to a senior member of staff about it outside the server. We are always more than happy to have a discussion with you and disagreeing with our rules will not result in you being punished in any way.

 

That being said, at the end of the day we do expect you to follow the rules on the server.

 

I will let you respond here before closing this appeal to give you a chance to say your part, but I'm afraid this appeal will be denied.


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Posted 13 July 2018 - 10:07 PM

I'd like to extend my ban from the server from 3 days to lifetime. Thanks for your time. Have a good day.



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Posted 14 July 2018 - 05:27 PM

I'd like to extend my ban from the server from 3 days to lifetime. Thanks for your time. Have a good day.

 

What a reasonable response. 


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